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		<title>By: Interview No. 1 &#171; Funny about Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interview No. 1 &#171; Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for Christmas? 2.Does any of this have meaning for individuals? 3.Rumors start to fly 4.On the trail of the elusive job 5.Beating the layoff stress 6.How low can I go? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Beating the layoff stress &#171; Funny about Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beating the layoff stress &#171; Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unemployment for Christmas? 2. Does any of this have meaning for individuals? 3. Rumors start to fly 4. On the trail of the elusive job 5. Beating the layoff stress 6. How low can I go? 7.Interview [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Unemployment for Christmas? 2. Does any of this have meaning for individuals? 3. Rumors start to fly 4. On the trail of the elusive job 5. Beating the layoff stress 6. How low can I go? 7.Interview [...]</p>
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		<title>By: copyeditorsdesk</title>
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		<dc:creator>copyeditorsdesk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the State of Arizona or any if its illustrious universities do anything is a little over my head.

I think it has to do with the exempt status. People who are exempt (i.e., they can be fired at will, at any time, without reason) have the option of choosing a 403(b) plan, which is the nonprofit organization&#039;s equivalent of a 401(k). At the time I started with GDU, various advisors suggested that a plan that gives you control over your investments was somehow better than a defined pension plan.

If I&#039;m understanding the legal mumbo-jumbo associated with the AZ state pension plan, apparently (! take this with a grain of salt) the state has an agreement with the feds that opts it out of the rule that says state government employees are exempt from Social Security. State of Arizona employees pay FICA and Medicare, whether they&#039;re in the state pension plan or the 403(b).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the State of Arizona or any if its illustrious universities do anything is a little over my head.</p>
<p>I think it has to do with the exempt status. People who are exempt (i.e., they can be fired at will, at any time, without reason) have the option of choosing a 403(b) plan, which is the nonprofit organization&#8217;s equivalent of a 401(k). At the time I started with GDU, various advisors suggested that a plan that gives you control over your investments was somehow better than a defined pension plan.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m understanding the legal mumbo-jumbo associated with the AZ state pension plan, apparently (! take this with a grain of salt) the state has an agreement with the feds that opts it out of the rule that says state government employees are exempt from Social Security. State of Arizona employees pay FICA and Medicare, whether they&#8217;re in the state pension plan or the 403(b).</p>
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		<title>By: KLCtheBookWorm</title>
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		<dc:creator>KLCtheBookWorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t understand why they even offer two different plans?  I work for state government in Louisiana, and it was mandatory to put into the LASERs, their cute acronym for the state retirement pension, and they do have vestment rules, but you don&#039;t pay Social Security taxes and there&#039;s rules on how much SS you can draw out while you get LASERs.  I didn&#039;t learn all the details since I never paid much into SS with the other jobs I had, regardless of its solvency in twenty to thirty years.

We also had the option of joining the 457(b) deferred compensation plan, which acts like a 401(k) or 403(b) without an employer match, but it isn&#039;t an either/or set-up.  I&#039;m contributing to both, which means I&#039;m saving 10% towards retirement (I&#039;m planning to increase it as I get out of debt).

It&#039;s the either/or that confuses me, but at least you got a higher paycheck out of the deal.  Granted, I don&#039;t know how Louisiana universities have their retirement set-up since I have never worked at one at a higher level than a student job.  It may be just like Arizona.  *Shrug*

Good luck with the job hunt.  You&#039;ve had enough problems at GDU to justify moving to a different setting of employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t understand why they even offer two different plans?  I work for state government in Louisiana, and it was mandatory to put into the LASERs, their cute acronym for the state retirement pension, and they do have vestment rules, but you don&#8217;t pay Social Security taxes and there&#8217;s rules on how much SS you can draw out while you get LASERs.  I didn&#8217;t learn all the details since I never paid much into SS with the other jobs I had, regardless of its solvency in twenty to thirty years.</p>
<p>We also had the option of joining the 457(b) deferred compensation plan, which acts like a 401(k) or 403(b) without an employer match, but it isn&#8217;t an either/or set-up.  I&#8217;m contributing to both, which means I&#8217;m saving 10% towards retirement (I&#8217;m planning to increase it as I get out of debt).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the either/or that confuses me, but at least you got a higher paycheck out of the deal.  Granted, I don&#8217;t know how Louisiana universities have their retirement set-up since I have never worked at one at a higher level than a student job.  It may be just like Arizona.  *Shrug*</p>
<p>Good luck with the job hunt.  You&#8217;ve had enough problems at GDU to justify moving to a different setting of employment.</p>
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		<title>By: On the trail of the elusive job&#8230; &#171; Funny about Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>On the trail of the elusive job&#8230; &#171; Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for Christmas? 2.Does any of this have meaning for individuals? 3.Rumors start to fly 4.On the trail of the elusive job 5.Beating the layoff stress Possibly related posts: [...]</description>
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