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	<title>Comments on: Furloughed! Parboil the fruits before canning?</title>
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		<title>By: SimplyForties</title>
		<link>http://funny-about-money.com/2009/01/28/furloughed-parboil-the-fruit-before-canning/comment-page-1/#comment-2614</link>
		<dc:creator>SimplyForties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL - hey, I&#039;m trying to find a bright side here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8211; hey, I&#8217;m trying to find a bright side here!</p>
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		<title>By: funnyaboutmoney1</title>
		<link>http://funny-about-money.com/2009/01/28/furloughed-parboil-the-fruit-before-canning/comment-page-1/#comment-2613</link>
		<dc:creator>funnyaboutmoney1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL! No, FrugalScholar...it came across as pretty ironic.

Today&#039;s post at the HR site specifically says we can&#039;t substitute sick days or vacation days for these no-pay days.

Since I posted earlier this morning, I&#039;ve learned that a friend was told the SAME thing at the West campus HR office that I heard at the main campus: if you&#039;re laid off, you can&#039;t collect your RASL. {sigh} Those people are soooo confused. Not only that, but when a friend called HR and asked if faculty on nine-month contracts would have the furlough days prorated down from 12, the person who answered the phone said, &quot;Uhhhh... I dunno.&quot; About five minutes later, the HR website was updated with a page that explained that yes, nine-month faculty would serve commensurately fewer payless days. Apparently, they&#039;re not telling the HR reps any more than they&#039;re telling the rest of the slaves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! No, FrugalScholar&#8230;it came across as pretty ironic.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s post at the HR site specifically says we can&#8217;t substitute sick days or vacation days for these no-pay days.</p>
<p>Since I posted earlier this morning, I&#8217;ve learned that a friend was told the SAME thing at the West campus HR office that I heard at the main campus: if you&#8217;re laid off, you can&#8217;t collect your RASL. {sigh} Those people are soooo confused. Not only that, but when a friend called HR and asked if faculty on nine-month contracts would have the furlough days prorated down from 12, the person who answered the phone said, &#8220;Uhhhh&#8230; I dunno.&#8221; About five minutes later, the HR website was updated with a page that explained that yes, nine-month faculty would serve commensurately fewer payless days. Apparently, they&#8217;re not telling the HR reps any more than they&#8217;re telling the rest of the slaves!</p>
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		<title>By: frugalscholar</title>
		<link>http://funny-about-money.com/2009/01/28/furloughed-parboil-the-fruit-before-canning/comment-page-1/#comment-2612</link>
		<dc:creator>frugalscholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you don&#039;t think I was sympathizing with the administrators. I am well aware of how much those people pay themselves! (Hence my mention of irony!)

I had the idea about sick days, because at that time you were afraid you&#039;d lose them if you were laid off. This would have been a way to claim them. Luckily, as a later post indicates, that is not true.

I work at a school also, so I am watching this with great interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you don&#8217;t think I was sympathizing with the administrators. I am well aware of how much those people pay themselves! (Hence my mention of irony!)</p>
<p>I had the idea about sick days, because at that time you were afraid you&#8217;d lose them if you were laid off. This would have been a way to claim them. Luckily, as a later post indicates, that is not true.</p>
<p>I work at a school also, so I am watching this with great interest.</p>
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		<title>By: funnyaboutmoney1</title>
		<link>http://funny-about-money.com/2009/01/28/furloughed-parboil-the-fruit-before-canning/comment-page-1/#comment-2611</link>
		<dc:creator>funnyaboutmoney1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ frugal scholar: The administrators are taking 15 days, which sounds staggering except that they earn six-figure salaries (in Crow&#039;s case, by the time you add in a bunch of perks and his wife&#039;s job acquired through his influence, the number of figures rises to seven). So a 15-day pay cut for those folks would cause significantly less pain than a 12-day cut for someone who is making $50,000 or $60,000 or a 10-day cut for those who make $18,000 to $24,000 (no joke! we have f/t secretarial jobs that pay 18 grand!). Each of my sick days is worth $120 at retirement. I&#039;m not letting go of any of those. Plus of course they have to pay me: the idea is to have days that they don&#039;t pay for.

@ Neal Hawes: We&#039;re being asked not to take all the time at once, because they&#039;re afraid of shutting down the university. Plus we have to take them before the end of the fiscal year, June 30. Last night the local Play-Nooz ran a piece on the state unemployment office, which is so overloaded that it takes weeks to get  unemployment started, and they cannot and will not speak to people over the telephone. The likelihood of actually extracting unemployment for the furlough days is probably pretty close to nil.

@SimplyForties: LOL! Those windows are opening so people can jump out of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ frugal scholar: The administrators are taking 15 days, which sounds staggering except that they earn six-figure salaries (in Crow&#8217;s case, by the time you add in a bunch of perks and his wife&#8217;s job acquired through his influence, the number of figures rises to seven). So a 15-day pay cut for those folks would cause significantly less pain than a 12-day cut for someone who is making $50,000 or $60,000 or a 10-day cut for those who make $18,000 to $24,000 (no joke! we have f/t secretarial jobs that pay 18 grand!). Each of my sick days is worth $120 at retirement. I&#8217;m not letting go of any of those. Plus of course they have to pay me: the idea is to have days that they don&#8217;t pay for.</p>
<p>@ Neal Hawes: We&#8217;re being asked not to take all the time at once, because they&#8217;re afraid of shutting down the university. Plus we have to take them before the end of the fiscal year, June 30. Last night the local Play-Nooz ran a piece on the state unemployment office, which is so overloaded that it takes weeks to get  unemployment started, and they cannot and will not speak to people over the telephone. The likelihood of actually extracting unemployment for the furlough days is probably pretty close to nil.</p>
<p>@SimplyForties: LOL! Those windows are opening so people can jump out of them.</p>
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		<title>By: SimplyForties</title>
		<link>http://funny-about-money.com/2009/01/28/furloughed-parboil-the-fruit-before-canning/comment-page-1/#comment-2610</link>
		<dc:creator>SimplyForties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doors are (maybe) closing but windows are opening.  Wonderful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doors are (maybe) closing but windows are opening.  Wonderful!</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Hawes</title>
		<link>http://funny-about-money.com/2009/01/28/furloughed-parboil-the-fruit-before-canning/comment-page-1/#comment-2609</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Hawes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take the 12 days all at once, over the Christmas Holiday (or any other desired time) and file for unemployment once!  Pick a time when your savings can help, or you have a plans that jive with needing time off for!  Make the best out of a bad situation, that&#039;s all you can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take the 12 days all at once, over the Christmas Holiday (or any other desired time) and file for unemployment once!  Pick a time when your savings can help, or you have a plans that jive with needing time off for!  Make the best out of a bad situation, that&#8217;s all you can do.</p>
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		<title>By: frugalscholar</title>
		<link>http://funny-about-money.com/2009/01/28/furloughed-parboil-the-fruit-before-canning/comment-page-1/#comment-2608</link>
		<dc:creator>frugalscholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evil thought??? Can you use the sick days accrued to &quot;cover&quot; your furlough days?</description>
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		<title>By: frugalscholar</title>
		<link>http://funny-about-money.com/2009/01/28/furloughed-parboil-the-fruit-before-canning/comment-page-1/#comment-2607</link>
		<dc:creator>frugalscholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But think how much all those top administrators are losing in their 3 weeks! (If my heavy irony is not conveyed in my prose, trust me, it&#039;s in my heart).

Hoping this will be the worst of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But think how much all those top administrators are losing in their 3 weeks! (If my heavy irony is not conveyed in my prose, trust me, it&#8217;s in my heart).</p>
<p>Hoping this will be the worst of it.</p>
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