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		<title>By: funny</title>
		<link>http://funny-about-money.com/2009/08/07/healthcare-the-clinker-for-retirement-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-14304</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ threadbndr:  I just...simply...don&#039;t...know! My income will be halved, and I&#039;m not exactly living like the Queen of Sheba right now. Can&#039;t imagine how I&#039;m going to live on it.

SDXB insists that it takes a lot less to live on than we think. But as long as I&#039;ve known him well -- a good 15 or 20 years -- SDXB hasn&#039;t bought a piece of furniture, a pot, a dish, a glass,a coffee mug, a kitchen utensil, or a picture to hang on the wall that hasn&#039;t come from a yard sale or a thrift store. Ditto clothes...lately he&#039;s begun to dress a little better (i.e., he buys new stuff from Penney&#039;s), but until very recently everything he put on his body either came from the military store at the AFB, the BX (shoes only), or from second-hand shops. He certainly isn&#039;t suffering, and if you didn&#039;t KNOW where his furniture and household items came from, you&#039;d never guess. But...gee.

It looks to me like the best way to increase retirement savings is to develop a side income stream and then salt every single net penny from it into a diversified, balanced savings and investment plan. Or, if you&#039;re a couple, try to live on one person&#039;s salary and stash the other partner&#039;s entire net pay. 

And for godsake, pay off the mortgage on the roof over your head!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ threadbndr:  I just&#8230;simply&#8230;don&#8217;t&#8230;know! My income will be halved, and I&#8217;m not exactly living like the Queen of Sheba right now. Can&#8217;t imagine how I&#8217;m going to live on it.</p>
<p>SDXB insists that it takes a lot less to live on than we think. But as long as I&#8217;ve known him well &#8212; a good 15 or 20 years &#8212; SDXB hasn&#8217;t bought a piece of furniture, a pot, a dish, a glass,a coffee mug, a kitchen utensil, or a picture to hang on the wall that hasn&#8217;t come from a yard sale or a thrift store. Ditto clothes&#8230;lately he&#8217;s begun to dress a little better (i.e., he buys new stuff from Penney&#8217;s), but until very recently everything he put on his body either came from the military store at the AFB, the BX (shoes only), or from second-hand shops. He certainly isn&#8217;t suffering, and if you didn&#8217;t KNOW where his furniture and household items came from, you&#8217;d never guess. But&#8230;gee.</p>
<p>It looks to me like the best way to increase retirement savings is to develop a side income stream and then salt every single net penny from it into a diversified, balanced savings and investment plan. Or, if you&#8217;re a couple, try to live on one person&#8217;s salary and stash the other partner&#8217;s entire net pay. </p>
<p>And for godsake, pay off the mortgage on the roof over your head!</p>
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		<title>By: threadbndr</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy carp!   I&#039;m younger than you - at the very tail end of the Boomers - with 13 to 15 years yet to go to retirement.  Even after the meltdown, I&#039;ve got three to six times the average. 

How are people living on that????   I&#039;m tracking estimated pension, SS (just got my yearly statement and the college years of abject poverty are finally falling off the rolling average) and IRA/401K drawdown.   By my calc, I have to work to full 66.5 to be as comfortable as I am today and 70.5 to feel safe.   Need to save more.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy carp!   I&#8217;m younger than you &#8211; at the very tail end of the Boomers &#8211; with 13 to 15 years yet to go to retirement.  Even after the meltdown, I&#8217;ve got three to six times the average. </p>
<p>How are people living on that????   I&#8217;m tracking estimated pension, SS (just got my yearly statement and the college years of abject poverty are finally falling off the rolling average) and IRA/401K drawdown.   By my calc, I have to work to full 66.5 to be as comfortable as I am today and 70.5 to feel safe.   Need to save more&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Revanche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revanche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now there&#039;s a new one ... my elderly neighbor in his upper 70s was telling me about how his doctor acknowledged his knee problem and refused to treat it, years ago, because he was over 70 years old.  Now they&#039;re just refusing to admit there&#039;s a problem at all??  

Then again, I&#039;m not surprised.  The first ten years of my RA experiences were with doctors all telling me I was off my rocker and &quot;too young&quot; for the pain I was feeling.  Yep, because that was going to solve the problem.  

I will say this, though, if you can get a good connection to a good doctor: a referral from a friend, a referral from someone inside the system, happenstancially meeting a good doctor, they will take care of you, HMO or no.  There will be limitations on what they can do, but they&#039;ll see you, and counsel you to the best of their ability.  So at least, in some cases, there are some doctors taking care of their patients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now there&#8217;s a new one &#8230; my elderly neighbor in his upper 70s was telling me about how his doctor acknowledged his knee problem and refused to treat it, years ago, because he was over 70 years old.  Now they&#8217;re just refusing to admit there&#8217;s a problem at all??  </p>
<p>Then again, I&#8217;m not surprised.  The first ten years of my RA experiences were with doctors all telling me I was off my rocker and &#8220;too young&#8221; for the pain I was feeling.  Yep, because that was going to solve the problem.  </p>
<p>I will say this, though, if you can get a good connection to a good doctor: a referral from a friend, a referral from someone inside the system, happenstancially meeting a good doctor, they will take care of you, HMO or no.  There will be limitations on what they can do, but they&#8217;ll see you, and counsel you to the best of their ability.  So at least, in some cases, there are some doctors taking care of their patients.</p>
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		<title>By: Retirement healthcare update &#124; Funny about Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retirement healthcare update &#124; Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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