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Zillowing around Phoenix

Having perused today’s doom-and-gloom piece in the Times to the effect that property values in my neck of the woods have dropped 50 percent in the past three years, I was moved to visit Zillow by way of checking up on the current value of my real estate empire.

Buy me! Get original 1970s everything! Only $300,000!
Buy me! Get vintage 1970s everything! Only $300,000!

Lo! Zillow’s estimate of my house’s value is $293,000! That’s $61,000 more than I paid for it five years ago, an increase of about 4.75 percent a year. Not great appreciation on investment, but one heckuva lot better than the negative numbers we’ve experienced in stocks and bonds.

Meanwhile, the downtown house that M’hijito and I are copurchasing comes in at $177,000, a whopping $58,000 less than we paid for it and $34,000 less than we owe. That’s more like the stock market we know and fear. 

Our lending agent at the credit union points out that the depressed value in what ought to be a stable centrally located neighborhood came about because a high number of foreclosures is pushing prices downward. Indeed, the house directly behind his was foreclosed; the bank recently unloaded it for $153,000, and the house is 100 square feet larger than M’hijito’s. 

That house was bought and lost by a speculator who was halfway through renovations when he defaulted. The kitchen and front rooms were redone, but the rest of the house is stripped down to the concrete and needs significant fix-up. The yard, of course, also needs a lot of work. Meanwhile, a house at the corner of his street and a main drag is valued at $227,000; that place has been in foreclosure not once, not twice, but three times. It presently has an auction sign out front. 

Even though things aren’t looking so good there, the lender says we should wait another nine months before assuming our shirt is lost. She says their appraisers have found that when a series of foreclosures pushes values down in a neighborhood, prices start to recover after about that length of time. In discussing the matter, she remarked that the area, within walking distance of the new light rail line, can be expected to recover its value over the next few years.

Assuming we believe Zillow’s Zestimates (a big assumption, that), it looks like our real estate investments are about a wash just now: a gain of $61,000 less a loss of $58,000 leaves us $3,000 to the good. Still better than the stock market, eh?

Out of idle curiosity, I checked the house SDXB sold five years ago, one street to the north of me. Zillow values it at $314,500, up from the $215,000 or so he got for it. The slum house directly behind his (well, “formerly his”), which was allowed to run to ruin by its original slob owners, then absorbed into Mr. B***’s rental empire, then sold at the top of the market to a couple who did some serious fix-up but soon divorced and turned it back into a down-at-the-heels rental, supposedly is worth $305,000. 

La Maya and Bethulia’s house, around the corner and in the ritzier part of the neighborhood, sports a $392,000 Zestimate, almost a hundred grand more than they paid for it. My old house, about two blocks away, is valued at $243,000, having been bought out of a short sale for $253,000 a year ago. I sold the house to the woman who defaulted on it for $211,000, so even given the foreclosure, the house’s value has increased over the past five years.

My old friend’s house in Moon Valley shows a value of $273,000, a lot less than I would expect but still more than she and her husband paid five years ago. They’ve put more into the house’s renovation than it has allegedly appreciated. Interestingly, Moon Valley, arguably a nicer area than mine because it’s free of bordering slums and is built around a very attractive country club and golf course, seems generally to be exhibiting depressed property values; five years ago I couldn’t touch a house in that area, but now many apparently are worth less than the house I’m in.

And what about my beautiful old house in the Willo Historic District, a place my ex- and I were crazy to have sold? Five hundred and eighty-one thousand dollah.

How crazy were we to have sold that place? Crazy as foxes. His house—the one we moved into—is now $607,500. Allegedly.

Mwa ha ha! 

I'm only $299,500...and I have a LAWN!
Only $299,500...and I have a LAWN!

Of all the shacks in my present and past real estate empire, my current house is far and away the nicest. M’hijito’s is cute but needs more fix-up to qualify as cuter than cute. My house is newer than the ex’s, ever so much more snazzily renovated, with a real garage and a gas range and beautiful Mexican tile and skylights in three rooms and a gorgeous pool. The house in Willo is now 80 years old, all very quaint and all very expensive to keep shored up; it’s sandwiched between three heavily traveled streets with a fire station just down the road. My house has a beautiful park within a three-minute walk, and it’s located so far from every main drag that it’s quiet—something you can say about very few houses in grid-patterned Phoenix. Yet, like all the other houses, it’s centrally located, and soon it will have easy access to the wonderful light-rail system.

So…whatever’s happening, none of us seem to have lost 50% of the value of our homes. As in other parts of the country, the real estate crisis works on micro-local levels. If you bought in one of the new Styrofoam-and-plasterboard suburbs that were tossed together on Sonoran desert habitat the developers were blading at the rate of an acre an hour, you got shafted. But if you bought in town, sticking to a centrally located part of the urb, you spent a little more on real estate, got block construction and a big yard, saved a lot on gasoline, and probably did OK on your investment.

Zillow is full of beans

What with the proposal that the government should force mortgage rates down to 4 percent, I mentioned to M’hijito that we should be prepared to re-refinance the Investment House, the place he and I are copurchasing partly as shelter for him and a paying roommate and partly as what we imagined would be an investment. He said he didn’t think we’d qualify, because we’re now upside-down in that house. Whence this intelligence? Zillow!

So I thought I’d better check Zillow to see what it claims the house is currently worth. Yup: the site estimates its value at $188,500, which is $46,500 less than we paid for it. But… Directly behind our house is a nearly identical cute little brick house in foreclosure. It has been partially renovated (ours has been completely renovated), but the owners dropped out of the picture before they could finish the job. Flooring is down to the concrete; bathrooms are unfinished; it needs a new roof. Zillow values that wreck at $225,000!

Our house has a new roof, new air conditioner, updated wiring and plumbing, and has been completely gutted out and rebuilt inside. Makes sense, eh?

If Zillow is figuring on a straight square-footage basis, at $188,500 our house is worth $143 a square foot. The house behind it has a 500-square-foot add-on. That should add $71,500 to its value, over the value of ours; in that case, it would be worth $260,00.

Interesting. I wondered what Zillow thinks my place is worth. Entering my address brought up an estimate of $284,500, or $52,500 more than I paid. Noticing a “recently sold” icon to the north, I clicked on it, thinking it was the rental house that Manny, the font of all neighborhood gossip, said was on the market.

But no! It was my neighbor Sally’s house, directly behind me. Zillow claimed it had sold in October for $192,500.

Say what? Sally is still very much in evidence. No “for sale” sign has ever gone up, though sometimes houses around here sell with no notice. But if the house had been sold last October, surely Sally would have moved by now.

A little further investigation showed Dave’s Used Car Lot, Marina, and Weed Arboretum (now under new management) also sold last October, for the same price.

Hmh. Well, these houses are on two parallel roads with the same name, one ending in “Lane” and one in “Way.” The street numbers are the same, so that packages and workmen meant for 501 West Erewhon Way often end up at 501 West Erewhon Lane, and vice versa. Clearly, someone got the address wrong, and Zillow picked up the error. Not enough, however, to post a picture of Dave’s house when you click on Sally’s: what comes up is a fine photo of Sally’s front elevation.

It gets better. Despite the alleged fire-sale price, Zillow values Sally’s house at $300,000, well above what any house in this neighborhood has commanded over the past two years. Her house is old and unrenovated, replete with the original harvest gold Formica counters and matching appliances. It’s clean and neat, but it needs a paint job, a new roof, a new air conditioner, and a full interior remake to bring it into the three-hundred-grand range.

Dave’s house is valued at $289,500, despite the $192,500 selling price. It is two square feet larger than mine, sits on the same-sized corner lot directly across the street from mine, has a pool about the same as mine, and landscaping comparable to mine (but lacking fruit and shade trees). It was built in the same year as mine by the same builder. It has a minuscule, dark kitchen, needs a new roof and new air conditioner, and soon will need new pool equipment. My house, in contrast, has a large, bright kitchen with a skylight (one of four in the house), sunny and open rooms, gorgeous tile floors throughout, a park-like yard with not one, not two, but three beautiful outdoor sitting and entertaining areas, a new roof, new kitchen appliances, new pool equipment, new bathroom everythings: Zillow values it at $284,000.

And this makes sense…how?

Zillow is the last place I would go to get a reasonable estimate on the value of a house. If you’re interested in buying a house, get your Realtor (and do engage one who alleges to represent the buyer, despite the speciousness of that claim) to run the comparables in the area and show you a printout. Visit those houses to be sure they really are comparable to the place you covet.

If you want to know what your house is worth, any Realtor will run the comps for your place. This is generally a free service, offered in hopes that you will list with the Realtor who is nicest to you. Ask a real, live Realtor, not Zillow, about the value of your house.